Landing St. Maarten from Cockpit 747
Filed Under (Cockpit Views) by Admin on 12-07-2008
Tagged Under : 747 Cockpit, Airplane, Altitude, Approach Angle, B747, Crackling Noise, Flare, Instrument Approach, Jfk, Piano Keys, Radio Altimeter, St Maarten, Stead, Three Degrees, Threshold, Visual Approach, Wheel Clearance, Wheels, Whit, Windshield
Landing St.Maarten from cockpit 747. After nosewheel landing camera touched windshield causing crackling noise.
For those viewers who made comments (or new viewers who are thinking about making the comment) that this approach is too high and/or too fast or whatever else you might think, here some free
flying lessons from someone who’s flying B747’s for 20 years:
On an approach on instruments a B747 should cross the runway threshold (= the piano keys) with the main wheels at ± 35 ft above threshold. The 747 is so big that at that point the altitude of the cockpit is 35 ft higher, so the cockpit is at ± 70 ft when main wheels cross the threshold.
On a visual approach, as is the case here at St.Maarten, we have to have some more margin. Normally the pilot aims to see the runway threshold disappear under the nose at 80 ft (mind you, the main wheels are at that moment still NOT above the threshold) to have sufficient main wheel clearance.
If you look at the video and notice the altitude callouts, you see the threshold disappear under the nose at the call 50, so actually I am a bit too low in stead of too high. (Actually I am only too low for a visual approach. If you look at my landing at JFK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4YoXyYBbYA&feature=user you will see that I cross the threshold also at 50 ft, which is normal on an instrument approach. Note: the automatic altitude callouts you hear on this video are Radio Altimeter altitudes. The Radio Alt is zero when the gear is on the ground with struts extended.)
Now, there are quite some viewers who think we landed too far on the runway. What follows from earlier explanation is this:
We approach a runway at a three degrees approach angle. If main wheels cross the threshold at the correct altitude, the main wheels will hit the runway at approx 900ft (300m) behind the threshold, that is, if you don’t flare the airplane. If you look again at the video and wait till you hear 50,40,30,20,10 and see the solid white markers, they are at 900ft behind the threshold and the plane touches down right behind them, because I did flare the airplane. (Passengers seem to hate hard landings!!)
THIS IS THE NORMAL TOUCHDOWN POINT FOR A B747.
The FCTM(=Flight Crew Training Manual) from Boeing says: flare distance is approx 300 to 600mtr (=900 to 1800ft) beyond the threshold.
So, please, stop nagging about this landing being too far on the runway.
And then something about too fast: On this approach the 747 weighs about 260.000 kgs. The required approach speed is then 150 kts which is about 175 mph or 280 km/hr. So what about TOO FAST? If we fly slower, we will fall out of the air!!
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One of the best flying videos on YouTube! Appreciate your comments, too! Thank you for letting us in the cockpit!
I que aterrizó en la pista de vuelo en simulador x LOL!
Runway is rly short, salutes to pilots who land here!
wow thats amazing piloting hope some day i do that
Instructions for landing at this airport
1) fly just above beach goers heads
2) touch down and use every bit of available runway
3) make a sharp u turn and taxi back in the same direction you used during landing
4) occupy runway so no other flights can land as you taxi to the gate
5) exit the aircraft and thank God you made it
awesome!, subscribed now =) any new vieos soon mate? Thanks.
Beautiful landing (and free flying lesson)! I’d fly safe with you guys any day. =) Hope you find the time to share some more of these unique videos soon.
Safe flight!
For visual approach which is higher than the cockpit is higher than standard ils you know how much higher than the cockpit is than the cockpit is higher than the landing gear on 747 right.
For your explanation suredt its very interesting and the landing is great.
OK I’m ready to go sailing now. They have a LOT of runway there and that’s a good thing.
Great video! Awesome to see it from the flight deck of a B747. Nice landing too.
The top and theres lot of plane under it.
where is st martin?
ok, dankjewel!
nee er is geen exit. ik heb gehoord dat ze die draai een BACKTRACK noemen:D
st.marteen i venir aquí!
Hoi, mooie video, is er geen exit aan het einde van de baan van St.Maarten en dat jullie daarom op het eind moeten draaien?
Groeten
From the cockpit it looks way higher when flying over the beach than all those movies filmed on the beach itself

Very cool movie. But is that allowed at all?
Wat een wereldbaan!
thats good landing ..espescially for a visual approach
i wish i could go on holiday to St. Maarten just to be on the beach as the planes go by. Could be there all day just watching aha
damn! not much room for error
Quiero ver esa imagen!
dutch pilots!!! i can hear one say; beetje naar links ( little to the left) great one!!!
aterrizaje perfecto